sakoshooter48 Says:

Apr 20, 2011 - @gp5 Don't get them started, they are on a tangent! I'm with you, Chemtrails, WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!?

sakoshooter48 Says:

Apr 20, 2011 - @Matey3 I love smarmy twits such as yourself who dodge the argument and then fidget and accuse when someone steps on your dick for saying something stupid. Yes, 25 years in the industry, Yes, VERY knowledgable about aircraft, especially Boeing 747's. As I stated previously, if you have anything to bring to the table, bring it, I wan't to hear it. I do not nor will I entertain new definitions for problems associated with the industry, i.e. "CHEMTRAILS", NO SUCH THING!

firstwave2 Says:

May 16, 2011 - @sakoshooter48  You sound like a locust caught in a paper bag ' .

Dre4dwolf Says:

May 17, 2011 - Maybe there is more to this "Jet lag" thing than people think. I always feel like shit when getting off a plane.

Dre4dwolf Says:

May 17, 2011 - They get the air for the cabin from the engines compressor? WTF ARE THEY THINKING 0o there should be a small dedicated compressor in the front of the plane. You don't mix engine air and human air -_-.... there is no reason to place these two systems together.

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 17, 2011 - @firstwave2 Really!? Kind of like both sides of your brain trying to ellucidate a coherent thought!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 17, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf You need a good goddamn slapping. Did you know that modern jet fighters no longer have to carry LOX to service the pilots. The engine compressors direct compressed air to a catalytic converter which makes pure 02. What the matter with 'engine' air you idiot? Does it change from the inlet to the compressor blades? Is there magic happening and somehow the air is changed to mystical pixie farts. How else are you going to be able to breath at altitude?

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 17, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf It taxes almost 4000hp to pressurize the cabine of a widebody at altitude, say for argument FL370. Cabin pressure altitude is kept at a comfortable 8.0 delta P so you wonderfully braindead urchins will keep breathing! This is why on long tranoceanic flights your rings are difficult to remove and your shoes are difficult to put on after you have removed them, normal pressure at sea level is 14.7/lbs/in . Where do you see this "small" air compressor with say 4000 hp coming from?

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 17, 2011 - @ramusling Really, why don't you go place your overly intellectual lips over your cars exhaust pipe and suck like you own a set. Maybe put all of us out of your misery! Your car is gallon for gallon 50 times more poisonous than exhausted gas from a turbine engine!

Dre4dwolf Says:

May 17, 2011 - @sakoshooter48 Gee wiz the airplane must have a lot of leaks if it has that much trouble holding pressure. There are ways to rout engine power to a compressor that takes air in from another section of the plane, a small turbine under the rudder could doit, they could have the main engines run generators to power it. Theres no reason to mix oil fumes and engine gasses (from the heat / friction / lubricants) with air that you intend to breath for 10 hours. sure its not as efficient but its safer.

firstwave2 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @sakoshooter48 Really -I had no idea a locust such as yourself even have the capability of coherent thought ' .

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @firstwave2 If you could only bring something to the table to discuss my life would be complete. Alas, tripe and drivel is all I can hope for. If you have something intelligent to say or comment on about the operation of a large turbofan, the discussion is yours. If not, I would respectfully suggest (that really hurt me) that you bone up on the theory and operation of large turbofan engines, control, and accessories. Then, mosey on back to the table and we will chat. Chemtrails, OH GOD!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf Ok, so how the hell do you think this "other" small turbine engine under the rudder is going to pressurize the cabin. As I said before, you are arguing in a vacuum of ignorance and trying to sound like you know how a large transport aircraft works. The technology is just now coming online with the 787 where the entire ECS system is electrically driven, testing is ongoing at Boeing with the conventional engine bleed pressurization sytem standing by if the technology fails!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @sakoshooter48 Very seldomly do oil fumes get in the cabin of an airliner. Two causes to this event:1)Failed ACM bearing seal, result, small amount of turbine oil mixed into cabin air sytem, less than 1.5 ounces.2) Failed #2 main bearing garlock seal in the engine resulting in turbine oil getting into the bleed airsystem,result, contaminated coalescer bags and smell in cabin. The failed engine seal will require engine replacement, the ACM will also be replaced as is usually seizes the turbine!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf And the small turbine under the tail is the APU, affectionately known as the "puke." This small turbine produces compressed air for operating hydraulics and has two generators attached for auxiliary power. Some APU's are rated for flight, some are not! The APU's commonly power the aircraft while on the ground and also supply compressed air to power the ECS system (Environmental Control System). You are under the misconception that pressurizing an aircraft is easy, it is not!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf To give you an idea of how long it takes to pressurize a B747-422 let me give you some examples. The Teledyne APU of the -400 series is excellent, approx 1600 hp and capapble of producing almost 300cfs of airflow. Thats 40 psi inside of a 6" airduct running almost 400'. Thats up the fuselage, through the ECS sytem, and out to the wings through the isolation valves. Lots of air! On the ground, to get the aircraft to a differential pressure of 8.4 lbs over atmospheric, takes 20 min.

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @Dre4dwolf To pressurize the entire aircraft with the four P&W 4056, takes a little less than 90 seconds, thought, HUGE airflow from the engine bleeds. The more bleed air you take from the engines, the higher the fuel burn. There are no "GIMME's" in aviation. EVERYTHING in a modern day airliner is a compromise, the technologies you do not see are astounding. Suffices to say, the bleed air/ECS sytem on a 747 is .......complex! If you have any questions, I would be happy to respond, nicely !

firstwave2 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @sakoshooter48 What is it -does the gov. pay you to wast space on this page to try covering up the chemtrail program. All the b.s you spew out has nothing to do with what is really going on-most already know as to what you are doing unit.

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - @firstwave2 My penance for educating ignorant trolls like yourself!

sakoshooter48 Says:

May 18, 2011 - Respond to this video...I would be most appreciative if you would show a modicum of knowledge on the issue as all you are doing is spewing, nothing to say but condescending remarks. Talk about wasting space! 

HumanSayNo Says:

May 20, 2011 - Its chemtrails!

nickerlesstezla Says:

May 30, 2011 - Watching this has affected my mental health without smelling a thing. What would happen to 350 people herded into one of these cigar tubes if they all farted at once. I've heard that the "air" is re-cycled, so our lungs would be full of everyones intestinal gas. Surely this is more of a potential health risk than a leaking fukin oil seal. Also, what about all these friggin Gamma Ray zigzags we get bombarded with during a thunderstorm! No mention of them in them shitty flight magazines EH!

007jacquie Says:

Jun 13, 2011 - Wow, I'm really happy to see someone actually made a video about this, I fly a lot and not all flights however some of them almost seem unbareable to me with the smell in the plane and when I say something its just brushed off as it'll go away, Well it seems rather simple just get better filtration so everyone else can breath cleaner air. Beside all this have you seen the rash of planes dropping out of the sky lately?? due to magnetic pole shifts? Scalar Weaponary? BirdsDroping out of the Sky

michelesnoopy Says:

Jun 18, 2011 - (Amounts of radiations on a flight from Japan to Bangkok: watch?v=LOCZSUxNy1o&feature=player_embedded#at=45)

hoplite46 Says:

Jun 20, 2011 - The oxygen to recycled air especially during long flights can be as low as 20% Due to aircraft turn around time the filters of the a/c on board are not being cleaned. Its just too disgusting to think about